PAGE FRIGHT interviews MA|DE (episode 105 — “Getting Uncomfortable in Your Poems”)

In MA|DE‘s first appearance on the PAGE FRIGHT podcast (episode 105), we talked with podcaster-poet Andrew French about our debut collection ZZOO, the challenges of collaboration, what we both have learned from each other, balancing a thousand different projects at once, writing poetry about animals, how performance factors into our writing (thanks to Annick MacAskill‘s question from the last episode), and getting out of artistic ruts, all in just under an hour.

Listen to the interview (59m) here

ALL LIT UP’s 2025 ‘World Poetry Day’ Reading Recommendations!


World Poetry Day is celebrated on 21 March, and was declared by UNESCO in 1999, “with the aim of supporting linguistic diversity through poetic expression and increasing the opportunity for endangered languages to be heard”.

Amazing to see ZZOO is a part of ALL LIT UP’s ‘30 must-read poetry collections’ list, recommended to help celebrate this special day — thanks for including us alongside so many other interesting artists (like Jessica Bebenek, Kyle Flemmer, Tea Gerbeza, Amy LeBlanc, Joseph Maviglia and Cecily Nicholson to name a few!)

ALL LIT UP interviews MA|DE


“Part of our guiding ethos as MA|DE is a sense that we should optimally function like an indie band, with the publisher acting as a label. It’s crucial for us to be actively involved in every stage of the book’s life cycle—including writing, editing, designing, marketing and touring.”

ALL LIT UP talked to Mark Laliberte & Jade Wallace, the duo behind MA|DE, about their collaborative process and their new book ZZOO (order here), which has FIVE very striking covers so that readers can select their favourite!

Read the interview here